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If you want to make it rain, connect with pain.

—Derrick Kinney

When I used to be a financial professional, one question came up frequently in social situations: “What do you do for a living?” I answered the same way most people in our industry do—“I’m a financial advisor.” And almost every time, I could feel the conversation stall. Eyes glazed over. Someone would joke about insurance. The moment passed—and so did any chance of going further.

After enough of those exchanges, I realized the problem wasn’t the people—it was the answer. Prospects don’t lean into job titles; they lean into problems they already recognize. As I like to say, “If you want to make it rain, connect with pain.” That insight led me to a better way to answer a simple question—and turn everyday conversations into real prospecting opportunities.

 

First, the “You Know How” Framework

Instead of leading with a job title, lead with something far more effective: a problem your listener already recognizes.

When someone asks me, “What do you do for a living?” my answer begins with three simple words:

“You Know How…”

Those words cue a familiar concern—“You know how people worry about running out of money in retirement?” Instead of leading with a title, I’m leading with a problem the listener already understands. You’re not introducing a new concern, you’re naming one people are already thinking about and understand.

To figure out which problem to lead with, look at two small groups:

1. Your five most recent clients

2. Your five favorite clients

Why did those people come to you? What were they worried about before working with you? When you review those conversations, patterns almost always emerge. Those patterns point to the problem you’re best positioned to solve.

Choosing one instantly recognizable worry for a specific client group doesn’t limit you—it focuses you. And, as I like to say, “When you own a problem, you own your success.”

For many, that problem might sound like one of these:

  • People who worry about running out of money in retirement

  • Corporate employees who are unsure about when they can actually retire

  • Teachers who spend so much time caring for their students that they put off their own financial planning

  • High‑earning professionals who feel stressed trying to enjoy the life they deserve Business owners who lose sleep worrying if their kids are ready to take over their business

  • People who make good money but still feel financially stuck

  • Doctors who are great with their patients but feel out of control with their finances

  • People navigating a major life transition—divorce, widowhood, or living solo—who suddenly need to rethink their financial plan

When I say, “You know how so many people worry about running out of money in retirement?” I don’t have to explain it. People recognize it immediately. They nod. They lean in.

That reaction is the point. When you lead with a problem people already understand, conversations stop feeling forced—and start opening the door to something more.

Once you’ve named a problem people recognize, the next step is explaining what you do—without overexplaining or turning the moment into a pitch.

 

Second, We Help Fix That

After you name the problem, keep your explanation simple. Saying “We help fix that.” signals confidence without forcing you to explain everything in the moment.

If the person says something like: “I understand that.” Or: “I can relate to that.” Then briefly add how you help—often with a simple three-step process—using plain language rather than details.

For example: “With our three-step (or five-step) planning process, we create a customized financial plan so people can feel confident they won’t run out of money.”

People like steps because they signal thoughtfulness and intentionality without forcing the listener to process details they’re not ready for yet. At this point in the conversation, less really is more.

I’ll often finish with a short statement about focus, such as:

“We specialize in retirement-income planning.”

Remember, people like to work with specialists.

What I don’t do is list products, credentials, or technical capabilities. In impromptu conversations, every extra detail forces people to think—and thinking slows things down. Simple language keeps the conversation moving.

When people recognize the problem you’re describing, they naturally want to hear more—to see if you might be able to help.

Next up is the final section—“Getting a Meeting”—where we show how to continue the conversation without pushing or turning interest into resistance.

 

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If you want to make it rain, connect with pain.

—Derrick Kinney

 

Third, Continuing the Conversation

When someone does want to hear more, the goal isn’t to push for a meeting or explain everything on the spot. It’s simply to continue the conversation in a way that feels natural and low‑pressure.

One of the biggest mistakes I see financial professionals make is trying to do too much, too fast. Even when someone shows interest, going deeper in the moment can create resistance. Instead, I suggest acknowledging that interest and offering a next step that feels easy and optional.

I’ll often say something like, “I don’t want to take too much of your time. If that’s something you’d like to learn more about, let me get your email or cell number and I’ll have my team set up a time for us to visit.”

That language takes the pressure off, gives the other person control, and lets the other person stay curious without feeling any pressure. And when you approach this stage with the same restraint and clarity as the rest of the conversation, interest doesn’t fade—it deepens.

 

“What if the Problem Doesn’t Resonate With the Prospect?”

The goal is to be known for solving a specific problem—so the right people lean in. Most financial professionals try to be all things to all people and end up being everything to no one; choosing one clear, recognizable worry signals depth and specialization, which makes conversations easier and positioning stronger.

For example, you might be talking to a high school teacher. Even if your “You know how…” problem doesn’t apply to them directly, you’d be surprised how often they know someone who’s dealing with it.

In practice, that means sticking with your “You know how…” line consistently. Like a band playing its hit song, you don’t rewrite it for every room—you deliver it well and let consistency build recognition. That’s how you become the specialist people remember and seek out.

 

To Summarize

First, instead of leading with your job title, start with “You know how…” and name a problem people already recognize, which immediately makes the conversation about them. Second, once that problem lands, say: “We help fix that.”

If the person leans in and appears to be interested, then share your simple three-step process for how you typically help. Third, when interest shows up, avoid explaining more or closing too fast—offer an easy, low-pressure next step that keeps the conversation moving forward and gives it a natural path to continue.

 

From an Awkward Answer to a Question I Looked Forward To

For years, I actually dreaded being asked, “What do you do for a living?” I knew my answer—financial advisor—was quietly shutting the conversation down. But once I started using the “You know how…” approach, everything changed. Conversations opened instead of stalling, people leaned in instead of backing away, and that one simple question started leading to real meetings and new clients. A small change turned a frustrating moment into one I genuinely looked forward to.

 

Next Steps

  1. Pick your problem: Look at your five most recent clients—or your top five—and identify one problem you consistently help them solve well.

  2. Use it when they ask: The next time someone asks, “What do you do for a living?” resist leading with your job title and start with “You know how…”, then confidently share that problem.

  3. Use it even if they don’t: If “What do you do?” never comes up, introduce your problem naturally in conversations: “It’s interesting—lately I’m hearing a lot of people worry about running out of money in retirement.” Remember: Don’t overcomplicate it. Keep it so simple that anyone could understand it. Share the problem you hear most often—the one you could say in your sleep.


About The Author
Derrick Kinney
Success for Advisors

Derrick Kinney is the founder of Success for Advisors and a respected voice on business growth for financial professionals. A former Forbes Top Advisor, he built and sold a successful financial planning firm and now helps financial professionals attract ideal clients and build more profitable practices. Derrick is a USA Today and Wall Street Journal best‑selling author and a frequent financial commentator on FOX News, CNBC, and Yahoo Finance.

 

The views and opinions expressed herein are those of the author, who is not affiliated with Hartford Funds.

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